Vermont Jeepers and other New England guys

MBood82 · 11-01-2005, 06:49 AM

It's a possibility I might be looking at some jobs in Vermont when I graduate in may. As such, I'd be taking my Jeep with me. Being that it has 35s, will I have any trouble inspecting it? Technically in Maine, 35" tires are illegal on my Jeep, I can only go to 31s legally.

I'm searching all over NE too, so if anyone has any comments on states for avoid for that reason (though I wouldn't count out a state JUST for lift laws but it would help sway the decision.)

TIA

phillyzj · 11-01-2005, 07:47 AM

i'm pretty sure Vermont is quite leniant, but i don't know for sure.

SilverStreak01 · 11-01-2005, 07:57 AM

i have just move up here to killington for the season.. i have seen more HUGE jacked up trucks running around and being that they are so common and out just driving around i really dont think they are getting hasseld.

6DoF · 11-01-2005, 08:12 AM

from talkin to stevie it seams like VT only really cares that the needed equipment works (brakes are fresh, cat is there), your windsheild isn't cracked, and your tires don't stick out too far. :shrugs: hopefully stevie see's this thread

MBood82 · 11-01-2005, 09:08 AM

Sounds like it could be a place for me... now I just need to find a job. :-D

SheepJeep · 11-01-2005, 10:13 AM

MA is a pain, tires cant stick out the fenders for than a inch and the total hight you can go(including hight added by tires) comes from this formula
(wheelbase*wheeltrack)/2200

but like in maine you can find guys who just dont give a damn, oh and we have emitions every other year

VTJeepCJ84 · 11-01-2005, 10:15 AM

they are usually pretty good, if it's obviously illegal you'll get busted. if it's registered in VT they are anal about inspection stickers, and having both plates on. If it's 96 or newer i believe it has to be put on the "sniffer" to check emmisions. older than that they might look for a cat(depends on the shop) as long as your tires don't stick out too far there usually isn't a problem. The last time i got my VW inspected the shop checked lights, horn, e-brake and that was it. Quality of inspection really varies between shop, you can make that work for or against you. jeepnski's jeep would probably get busted for tires but half his tire sticks out beyond the flare. your 35x12.5 should be fine, they might make you put mud flaps on for inspection

VTJeepCJ84 · 11-01-2005, 10:20 AM

as long as all the lights work, no cracks in the windshield that are in the wiper travel, has a sorta functional e-brake, doesn't look like a total POS it's not a problem

MBood82 · 11-01-2005, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SheepJeep

MA is a pain, tires cant stick out the fenders for than a inch and the total hight you can go(including hight added by tires) comes from this formula
(wheelbase*wheeltrack)/2200

but like in maine you can find guys who just dont give a damn, oh and we have emitions every other year

I'll have fender flares that should cover my tires fairly well, so I'm not too worried about that. As far as the total height is concerned, where do they measure that at? The roof? Or the frame rail?

Maine actually is pretty rough now, any sign you have ABS and NO ONE will inspect it if it's lifted or different size tires (nor will they install tires). That is slowly changing since I guess they changed the laws now (still haven't seen much official on it) but they are pretty anal. And nobody will inspect a non-ABS vehicle with tires over 2 sizes above stock. It's pretty dumb.

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Originally Posted by VTJeepCJ84

they are usually pretty good, if it's obviously illegal you'll get busted. if it's registered in VT they are anal about inspection stickers, and having both plates on. If it's 96 or newer i believe it has to be put on the "sniffer" to check emmisions. older than that they might look for a cat(depends on the shop) as long as your tires don't stick out too far there usually isn't a problem. The last time i got my VW inspected the shop checked lights, horn, e-brake and that was it. Quality of inspection really varies between shop, you can make that work for or against you. jeepnski's jeep would probably get busted for tires but half his tire sticks out beyond the flare. your 35x12.5 should be fine, they might make you put mud flaps on for inspection

I'm not worried about the emissions, I have a cat and will continue to. Again, I'll have flares so I'm not worried about tires that much. I can deal with mud flaps.

Thanks for the input guys!

VTJeepCJ84 · 11-01-2005, 10:30 AM

i've never seen anyone get busted for being too tall, the guy that inspected my trailer who worked at the shop had a F250 that he was putting i think 8" of lift at 40's on. check you this site, i think it might help some:
http://www.aot.state.vt.us/dmv/docum...tionManual.pdf

front bumper 28"
rear bumper 31"

MJMA · 11-01-2005, 02:31 PM

ironically the toughest state for lift laws around new england is maine!! go figure. sheepjeep has had some problems because he lives near boston. it's all about the shop that you go to. in a rural area, they are not going to bust ballz for a modified jeep as long as it's got a cat. mud flaps maybe if it's really big, but if you're driving a huge jeep on the road you should have mud flaps anyways just as a courtesy to other drivers!

The only thing that sucks about Vermont is that you can not run aftermarket pipes on a sled!!! It's a rediculous law but I guess they made it because so many people come through VT on sleds from out of state and it annoys people who live near the trails. I've stayed at a friends house, and one of the main trails ran right through his front yard, across the driveway up the side of the property and then out back. it was annoying to have people even with stock exhaust rippin up the hills at 3am.

MBood82 · 11-01-2005, 02:34 PM

VTJeep - thanks for the link, i'll check it out later. i'm glad to know it sounds reasonable.

MJMA - maine definitally is tough. makes jersey seem easy. and I really could care less about sleds, at least for now. haven't found much interest in em.

sidriptide · 11-01-2005, 11:43 PM

i registered my XJ up in Vt this year just for this reason. with 5" of lift there is no way i can get a legal sticker here in Ma. i spoke with 3 different shops up in Vt about lift laws and there really doesnt seem to be much on the books that specifically relates to the issue. one common point they all shared was that if it looks like a real P.O.S. they wont touch it. if it looks like a solid vehicle and apears to be built properly they dont generally care.

Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com · 11-02-2005, 05:00 PM

really?

I'm in VT right now, and givin some thought to relocation, but I gotta check out something other than burlington, too many goddamn dirty enviromentalist hippies and smoking nazis here

that's good to know!

MBood82 · 11-02-2005, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com

really?

I'm in VT right now, and givin some thought to relocation, but I gotta check out something other than burlington, too many goddamn dirty enviromentalist hippies and smoking nazis here

that's good to know!

I have next to no experience with vermont outside of the Manchester/Dorset area and Stratton Mountain. Those areas seem pretty nice and if I could find a job I'd like that.. the area I happened to find a job that was hiring in was a little further north (by like 3 hours) though and it's not like they are calling back or anything yet. But my wife likes the idea of Vermont and there are other jobs so it's certainly an option... particularly if it's easier to get inspected in then around here.

VTJeepCJ84 · 11-02-2005, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com

I'm in VT right now, and givin some thought to relocation, but I gotta check out something other than burlington, too many goddamn dirty enviromentalist hippies and smoking nazis here

that's good to know!

hahahaha, yeah the tree huggers can get annoying, stay away from burlington. get away the city, and stay away from "gold" towns because the taxes are higher in them

HotSEXJ · 11-02-2005, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MBood82

any sign you have ABS and NO ONE will inspect it if it's lifted or different size tires

nobody will inspect a non-ABS vehicle with tires over 2 sizes above stock.

So nobody will inspect anything with big tires?

MBood82 · 11-02-2005, 10:38 PM

nope. everyone here has a set of inspection tires. trucks look funny about that time....

and the cops have caught on, it's now an arrestable offense to modify the vehicle after inspection. so... kinda makes me worried driving my rig around town.

Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com · 11-03-2005, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by VTJeepCJ84

hahahaha, yeah the tree huggers can get annoying, stay away from burlington. get away the city, and stay away from "gold" towns because the taxes are higher in them

the thing is, I know a crapload of people here already. (a bunch of my friends from HS ended up congregating here... why I don't know, but they did)

I could make a killing here opening a PA style hoagie shop, 'cause people here don't know how to make a fawkin sandwich that doesn't suck.

that or a good pizza joint

11-01-2005, 06:49 AM	#1
MBood82 Turd Ferguson Join Date: May 2004 Location: Maine Posts: 12,309	Vermont Jeepers and other New England guys It's a possibility I might be looking at some jobs in Vermont when I graduate in may. As such, I'd be taking my Jeep with me. Being that it has 35s, will I have any trouble inspecting it? Technically in Maine, 35" tires are illegal on my Jeep, I can only go to 31s legally. I'm searching all over NE too, so if anyone has any comments on states for avoid for that reason (though I wouldn't count out a state JUST for lift laws but it would help sway the decision.) TIA __________________ '98 GMC Sierra SL '99 Cherokee (sold) '06 Dodge Magnum R/T '13 Dodge Dart Limited

11-01-2005, 07:47 AM	#2
phillyzj ZJ Guru Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Aberdeen, MD Posts: 10,574	i'm pretty sure Vermont is quite leniant, but i don't know for sure. __________________ '98 ZJ Buggy - project '00 CTD Ram - Tow Rig '02 Civic - Boring DD

11-01-2005, 07:57 AM	#3
SilverStreak01 Trail Guide Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: MAY: Glenwood Springs CO!! Home:Hometown PA Posts: 358	i have just move up here to killington for the season.. i have seen more HUGE jacked up trucks running around and being that they are so common and out just driving around i really dont think they are getting hasseld. __________________ an xj on 33s.. she's back and runnin' and im keepin her!

11-01-2005, 09:08 AM	#5
MBood82 Turd Ferguson Join Date: May 2004 Location: Maine Posts: 12,309	Sounds like it could be a place for me... now I just need to find a job. :-D __________________ '98 GMC Sierra SL '99 Cherokee (sold) '06 Dodge Magnum R/T '13 Dodge Dart Limited

11-01-2005, 10:15 AM	#7
VTJeepCJ84 Trail Guide Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA Posts: 2,515	they are usually pretty good, if it's obviously illegal you'll get busted. if it's registered in VT they are anal about inspection stickers, and having both plates on. If it's 96 or newer i believe it has to be put on the "sniffer" to check emmisions. older than that they might look for a cat(depends on the shop) as long as your tires don't stick out too far there usually isn't a problem. The last time i got my VW inspected the shop checked lights, horn, e-brake and that was it. Quality of inspection really varies between shop, you can make that work for or against you. jeepnski's jeep would probably get busted for tires but half his tire sticks out beyond the flare. your 35x12.5 should be fine, they might make you put mud flaps on for inspection __________________ '84 CJ-7: mostly stock '07 Tundra

11-01-2005, 10:20 AM	#8
VTJeepCJ84 Trail Guide Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA Posts: 2,515	as long as all the lights work, no cracks in the windshield that are in the wiper travel, has a sorta functional e-brake, doesn't look like a total POS it's not a problem __________________ '84 CJ-7: mostly stock '07 Tundra

11-01-2005, 10:30 AM	#10
VTJeepCJ84 Trail Guide Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA Posts: 2,515	i've never seen anyone get busted for being too tall, the guy that inspected my trailer who worked at the shop had a F250 that he was putting i think 8" of lift at 40's on. check you this site, i think it might help some: http://www.aot.state.vt.us/dmv/docum...tionManual.pdf front bumper 28" rear bumper 31" __________________ '84 CJ-7: mostly stock '07 Tundra Last edited by VTJeepCJ84; 11-01-2005 at 10:43 AM.

11-01-2005, 02:31 PM	#11
MJMA Got Rocks? Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rehoboth, MA, USSA Posts: 9,743	ironically the toughest state for lift laws around new england is maine!! go figure. sheepjeep has had some problems because he lives near boston. it's all about the shop that you go to. in a rural area, they are not going to bust ballz for a modified jeep as long as it's got a cat. mud flaps maybe if it's really big, but if you're driving a huge jeep on the road you should have mud flaps anyways just as a courtesy to other drivers! The only thing that sucks about Vermont is that you can not run aftermarket pipes on a sled!!! It's a rediculous law but I guess they made it because so many people come through VT on sleds from out of state and it annoys people who live near the trails. I've stayed at a friends house, and one of the main trails ran right through his front yard, across the driveway up the side of the property and then out back. it was annoying to have people even with stock exhaust rippin up the hills at 3am. __________________ "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." Thomas Jefferson

11-01-2005, 02:34 PM	#12
MBood82 Turd Ferguson Join Date: May 2004 Location: Maine Posts: 12,309	VTJeep - thanks for the link, i'll check it out later. i'm glad to know it sounds reasonable. MJMA - maine definitally is tough. makes jersey seem easy. and I really could care less about sleds, at least for now. haven't found much interest in em. __________________ '98 GMC Sierra SL '99 Cherokee (sold) '06 Dodge Magnum R/T '13 Dodge Dart Limited

11-01-2005, 11:43 PM	#13
sidriptide Trail Guide Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west springfield, ma Posts: 139	i registered my XJ up in Vt this year just for this reason. with 5" of lift there is no way i can get a legal sticker here in Ma. i spoke with 3 different shops up in Vt about lift laws and there really doesnt seem to be much on the books that specifically relates to the issue. one common point they all shared was that if it looks like a real P.O.S. they wont touch it. if it looks like a solid vehicle and apears to be built properly they dont generally care. __________________ Mike (Moab on the brain) 83 CJ-5 mall wheeler www.Berkshire4Wheelers.com Founder NAXJA.Org north atlantic chapter, Director

11-02-2005, 05:00 PM	#14
Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com BANNED! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 14,931	really? I'm in VT right now, and givin some thought to relocation, but I gotta check out something other than burlington, too many goddamn dirty enviromentalist hippies and smoking nazis here that's good to know! __________________ "The law “requires” a signature on the bottom of a tax filing; yet no one can say truthfully that they understand what they are signing; if that’s not “duress” than what is? If this is not the measure of a totalitarian regime, nothing is!" -Joe Stack

11-02-2005, 10:38 PM	#18
MBood82 Turd Ferguson Join Date: May 2004 Location: Maine Posts: 12,309	nope. everyone here has a set of inspection tires. trucks look funny about that time.... and the cops have caught on, it's now an arrestable offense to modify the vehicle after inspection. so... kinda makes me worried driving my rig around town. __________________ '98 GMC Sierra SL '99 Cherokee (sold) '06 Dodge Magnum R/T '13 Dodge Dart Limited