Didn't need a hose, so don't know. I figure if it had to be replaced with a bad pump they cover it. If it had to be replaced with a bad radiator, they wouldn't.
:mad:

Total BS. Absolutely no signs of abuse or external stress. Just a badly built example. :mad: The Xj was built solid the final week of XJ production with the pride of finishing up the run, but the JK has all the signs of being built the last weeks before Summer break for the new model year turn over.

Yep Mopar hates competition and they've been missing out on a huge market for Jeep stuff for years. I mean they've had stuff available, but nothing to this level. They really stepped it up this time and have lots of good offerings that the competitors(including us) normally offer. We're having to change up our game for sure. It's gonna hurt a lot of smaller aftermarket companies, but the larger more established ones that have already been trying to come up with new, innovative products will hopefully be able to stay ahead of the curve. Mopar is pretty much just catching up to what the aftermarket has been offering for the JK for 5-10 years, so the good aftermarket companies will be able to offer something new and different that Mopar isn't doing yet. All that OEM red tape really bogs them down!

Premature radiator failure seems to be a very common problem on the 3.6 JKs. I haven't looked into what the likely cause is, whether it's design flaw or bad manufacturing, but I've read about failures time and again online. I'm a little surprised there's no TSB or recall, but I guess since it's not safety related and is easy for them to point the fingers elsewhere, they managed to dodge that bullet.

TSB reads: If water is coming out, it's not supposed to. replace with one that doesn't let water out.:roflmao:

I thought that AEV supplied a lot of those Mopar items like the Moab and Rubicon X bumpers and hoods?

Kept my receipt, maybe I can get reimbursed if they ever admit to the failings. Doubt it, but a guy can dream, can't he?

There are a few, but it's handled in unique ways. AEV is very much a competitor of Mopar and the relationship isn't what most think. From what I gather Mopar often has their hands tied by things like OEM FMVSS(federal motor vehicle safety standards) and aren't able to do all the cool stuff a lot of other aftermarket companies can, so things aren't as simple or friendly as they seem. I always thought otherwise too.

So, do you have a code for friends to get a discount on AEV rear bumpers? :D I wish to not give Chrysler any insurance money to replace my rear bumper after getting rear ended last weekend.

I can most likely get you 20% off. If you make any for sure decisions about what you want to do, shoot me a PM and we'll talk details.

Awesome! Thanks!

The pickups are on the road testing in SoCal! Maybe available by Summer as a 2019?
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...ca&oe=5AB1F0DE

They've been running around SE Michigan for close to 6 months. Those are still pretty camo'd, but regular JLs have been running around here naked for a couple months now. Passed one on the highway this morning on my way to a supplier.

Hoping that they will do a shorter bed for the four door. What I have seen has the awkward proportions of the H3T. Understand the greater utility, but figure anyone getting a JL pickup is going for style. Anyone going for utility should just get a cheaper regular pickup.

As much good as they've done w/ the JL...I just hope they don't really fuk up the truck!

I've seriously held off pushing for a Brute DC because I wanted a more affordable Jeep truck...but man, I'm a bit nervous it'll not be what I'm hoping it will be.

HOWEVER, I do like all the new JL bits...so who knows. I wait, cuz it'll surely be cheaper than an AEV :lol:

I just wanna see the damn thing already :banghead:

and why are they still in camo? we've seen everything fwd of the fawking bed, we know wtf it is, and i bet the taillights/flares n all that jazz in the back are the same too. fine, don't release it till summer, but why bother with the camo??

south korea

Right :banghead:

Its possible that the trucks still have heavy camo from early development, and now FCA has reduced the requirements for it, but it hasn't been removed.

That is the story with one of our JL's...it still has full camo even though FCA doesn't require it on them anymore. The vehicle just hasn't gone back to get it removed yet.

ACE Engineering already has a JLU that they're working on. They've already got rock sliders and some cowl risers for ditch lights. And it's already sitting on 35s.

The JT bed should be about the same size as a Tacoma short bed. Any shorter and they'd loose out on truck customers. This is meant to be a real competitor in the mid-size truck market, not another Explorer Sport-Trac.

Proportionally it should be nearly identical to the AEV Brute DC. It's just that nearly all Brute DCs are lifted and sitting on 35s or 37s, so they look much better proportioned.

The big issue for the JT's proprotions is the Wrangler's traditionally long nose. There's a huge amount of space between the front wheels and the front doors compared to something like a Tacoma. This in turn makes the vehicle longer overall. The JT's overall length and wheelbase should be very close to that of the Tacoma 4dr long bed, but the JT will have a short bed on it.

They dropped the Unlimited moniker for this model...it's just 2 door and 4 door now.

edit: not entirely true. They do seem to be downplaying the "Unlimited" moniker in marketing text, but the badging on the side still reads "Wrangler Unlimited"

http://www.aceengineeringandfab.com/...EJLRS4DR-B.jpg

Ugh, I always hated the unlimited term.

Looks like some aftermarket shops got to peek at them this last week...should start to see some things coming out shortly.

Looks like AEV actually GOT one on hand, at the shop :eek:

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...1c&oe=5ABA2F13

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...c7&oe=5AF6ABA7

Bob just got to check it out, by the sounds of it...nothing in hand yet.

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...f4&oe=5AE5BBF9

Can't wait to see what comes first, and how they truly differentiate them from the JK!

Everyone says something about the fenders...honestly, they don't bother me all that much :dunno:

This guy does a pretty good video on some of the lesser known details.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLj9D4vo56Q

Artec is test-fitting belly armor.

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/for...54_n-jpg.8948/

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/for...71_n-jpg.8949/

I can live with the fenders, I guess. Just wish the turn signals remained on the grill below the headlights as God, Mr. Willys, and some General in 1941 intended them to be.

:us:

Glad they took the Jeep badge off the front. Wish that the Jeep on the side was embossed like the CJ/YJ/TJ instead of the badge.

Soft top ease looks AWESOME!!! Love that the cowl latches are no longer behind the sunshades. However the folded stack looks even taller than the JK's.

Yeah, I'm guessing there will be a company that comes out w/ a grille that has the signals in them, or there will be some sort of mod kit where you drill your own, move the wiring (plug n play harness, possibly).

Of course, that would mean there'd need to be a blackout kit made to replace the fender lights, assuming they pop out or can be covered in some way...if not replaced w/ an aftermarket option as a result of larger tires and the signal mod.

At least that's what I've been envisioning since I saw them...and all those idiots that bought those stupid azz "mean" grilles in the past. At least this one would be a function change, not a garbage look change.


Totally agree, would love to see the embossed Jeep, but that ain't happening...cost factor, I'm sure.

Yeah, seriously want to see how that top works, as well as the hard top panel (window) removal.

Shouldn't be hard. Remember, the first Bronco IIs had removable rear windows.
http://www.broncoii4x4.com/bb/BIIad.jpg

There're videos floating around showing the power top and removable rear side windows. The side windows work essentially just like the Freedom Top panels over the front seats, only, you know, they're vertical.

edit: https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/for...stration.2086/

Yeah, Doug D has a good demo buried in the video Sam posted at 3:35. Looks good for a mom mobile, or a guy that does not plan to do much wheeling. Also good if you are going to put one of those full length racks like a Garvin or GOBI on your Jeep.

Any word on the doors with the lower windows?
Show feature, or is it going to be available to all?

Yeah, I've seen videos...want to see it in person.

Fuk that Bronco :rolleyes:

B

maybe JK's will finally suffer the crushing blow of depreciation?

:lol: Not likely...and, hopefully, for those that own them...no! :lol:

TJs still have stupid high value. The only one that's really reasonably priced is the YJ.

i wish i had invested in TJ futures back in the day ...

Right, and for good reason :lol:

No kidding. However, I've never done too bad w/ mine. I have two now that I could flip pretty easily and come out where I bought them, even ahead.

I'd like to do just that w/ one of them, but the wife and kid just flat out love them. Me, meh, I'll never own another one. Well, not a shorty, maybe an Unlimited. Even then, it'd have to be bastardized, molested and beefed to the hilt!!