Paragon

[XJ Fanatic]

Ok so ryan, jby1999, and myself wanna hit paragon up over t-day weekend. sat or friday not sure on the details yet just want to let everyone have a heads up if anyone would like to come along. we will be running mostly 3s and maybe a 4<--- for ryan and jby1999. graemlins/jeepincom2.gif

[Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com]

Let's run Rattler!

graemlins/laughing.gif

[96 Sport]

If it's on Friday, lemme know as soon as possible to see if I can get off work. graemlins/driving.gif

[XJ Fanatic]

it all depends on jby1999 he brought up paragon i just need to see if he has to work that friday

[Vetteboy]

I'd go on that if I have a transmission and transfer case that work.

[96 Sport]

Hey vetteboy, I have a good AW4 and 231 lying at my house. Interested?

[79DanCJ]

I'm interested! I hope i can keep up...By then i'll lave maybe 33'sMTs with front and rear locked.....not much flex though..or 31's At lost of flex!

[Vetteboy]

Originally posted by 96 Sport:
Hey vetteboy, I have a good AW4 and 231 lying at my house. Interested? Possibly in the 231...what's the spline count on it?

As for the AW4...I'd rather sit at home than wheel a slushbox. Sorry - just personal preference. icon_smile_wink.gif

[XJ Fanatic]

vette you would rather sit home than wheel. you on crack?! anyway hit up harry's sometime they may have something for you

[matts96zj]

hmm, I might be in, but I'm not sure if I'd be able to keep up in the ZJ w/ only 31's & 2"s of lift. I'd really hate to be the stubling point of the trip.

[XJ Fanatic]

haha dont worry bout it matt i only have 31s on 3in lift. my neighbor takes me on trails that he can do in 2wd he just likes helpin out smaller jeeps lol... plus he likes to spot.

[matts96zj]

well, I'd really like to join you guys but I'll have to convince the wife first. She wasn't impressed by the rocker panel/cladding damage when I returned home from my last wheelin' trip. I'll let ya'll know.

[Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com]

Originally posted by matts96zj:
well, I'd really like to join you guys but I'll have to convince the wife first. She wasn't impressed by the rocker panel/cladding damage when I returned home from my last wheelin' trip. I'll let ya'll know. it's a Jeep, that's a "beauty mark" icon_smile_wink.gif

[96 Sport]

Originally posted by vetteboy79:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 96 Sport:
Hey vetteboy, I have a good AW4 and 231 lying at my house. Interested? Possibly in the 231...what's the spline count on it?

As for the AW4...I'd rather sit at home than wheel a slushbox. Sorry - just personal preference. icon_smile_wink.gif </font>[/QUOTE]Hey whatever works for you...I would have to rip the 231 from the Jeep to check the spline count. I might get the chance to do it this weekend. I will let you know.

[matts96zj]

it's a Jeep, that's a "beauty mark" I agree, but for some reason she doesn't see it that way. graemlins/icon_banghead.gif graemlins/icon_banghead.gif Women, you can't live with 'em, & there's no open season for 'em.

[Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com]

Originally posted by 96 Sport:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by vetteboy79:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 96 Sport:
Hey vetteboy, I have a good AW4 and 231 lying at my house. Interested? Possibly in the 231...what's the spline count on it?

As for the AW4...I'd rather sit at home than wheel a slushbox. Sorry - just personal preference. icon_smile_wink.gif </font>[/QUOTE]Hey whatever works for you...I would have to rip the 231 from the Jeep to check the spline count. I might get the chance to do it this weekend. I will let you know. </font>[/QUOTE]what year XJ did it come from?

[96 Sport]

89 4.0, AW4. 231 Vac disco

[Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com]

21 spline

[XJ Fanatic]

Originally posted by matts96zj:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> it's a Jeep, that's a "beauty mark" I agree, but for some reason she doesn't see it that way. graemlins/icon_banghead.gif graemlins/icon_banghead.gif Women, you can't live with 'em, & there's no open season for 'em. </font>[/QUOTE]haha you just need a jeep chick like me
the more i do to the jeep the more turned on she gets in the jeep. anyway my parents were too happy when i bent my exhaust around my axle, bent a shock in a 30 degree angle and so forth but my thing is mom dad my jeep has no resale value ... matt just put more miles on it!

[matts96zj]

just put more miles on it!
I'm tryin', I don't think 74,000 in 3.5 yrs. is too bad graemlins/iono.gif . It only had 27,000 when I bought it, so I think it's safe to say I popped it's cherry graemlins/brows.gif . She saw this post & already gave me an ixnay on the trip, but it's not over yet graemlins/evil_grin.gif .

[Dean Shirley]

i'm in... but as i still don't have my own jeep yet, i'll have to resort to ridding with someone. but i'll earn my keep by being camera man graemlins/icon322.gif

[XJ Fanatic]

aight dean but i dunno if my girl is comin if not you can ride with me... but you gotta pay your way with the 5dollar passenger fee. and dude thats nothing. my dad put that much on his vehicles in like 2.5 years
in 5 years his voyager had 130k on it and he wrecked it ... that thing was amazing he broke the motor mounts at least 5 times takin my sis to college and never new it drove it for like 6000 on broken mounts and never had a prob jsut a clunk lol.

[Dean Shirley]

i'm sure i'll be able to drive myself there... but the mom would kill my a$$ if i took HER XJ off-roading graemlins/driving.gif

[Vetteboy]

Justin - yeah, I'll need a 23 spline one probably, so don't worry about it.

If all goes according to plan...I'm gonna try and get a new NV3550 and NP231 combo by then...we'll see what happens. After all the shiit I did with the conversion in the last month and a half I don't think a tranny swap will take very long. Especially since it's a bolt-in swap. I'd love to join you guys out there though, so I'll see what I can do.

[XJ Fanatic]

vette anything else you could do to fix it?

[Vetteboy]

Well, yeah. I can find another junkyard trans and t-case and take my chances there. Or I can get the current trans (Peugeot BA 10/5) rebuilt, for $1500, but it was a piece of crap from the day it came out of the factory. Also, I haven't had a chance to open up the transfer case yet, so while I'm pretty sure it's just the chain, I don't know what else is f'd up in there. Seeing as I'm gonna keep this XJ around for a long time, I'd rather just do it right and know that I've got reliable parts underneath, ya know?

But...if you know where I can get a guaranteed used AX-15/NP231 combo from, that'd be a step in the right direction as well. graemlins/thumbsup.gif

Are you guys just going out for the day, or are you gonna camp any nights out there?

[96 Sport]

Originally posted by vetteboy79:
(Peugeot BA 10/5) graemlins/crazy.gif

[Vetteboy]

I know the BA10/5 is a piece of crap. In fact I knew that when I replaced my 2wd AX15 with it. But I wasn't planning on having it in there permanently, and since I got it for free and the donor had 110k miles I figured it might last for a few months until I had the cash to get something good. And I figured wrong. So now here's me, with no 5th gear, no 3rd gear synchro, and some funny noises coming from it...

[matts96zj]

I talked to Bill (75CJ) today & he said he's in, just need an exact date.

[Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com]

It's lookin like saturday (Nov. 29)

I want a head/Jeep count.

Jeeps:
Mine
Brian's
jby1999's
Justin's
Dan's
Bill (75CJ)
vetteboy's (if you can fix yer junk by then)
Matt's?

I'll have room for Dean if nobody else does (might be ridin' in the backseat tho)

I miss anyone?

Edit:
ok, just called PAP, and all we do is show up, pay @ the trailer, get our sh1t togerther and go have fun icon_smile_big.gif

[ October 23, 2003, 04:46 PM: Message edited by: Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com ]

[XJ Fanatic]

always have room for dean he can ride in the back of my junk if he wants i dont think anyone should be riding in the back of ryans xj... :cough:deathtrap:/cough:

i am pretty sure my gf is gonna come and ride along with me cuz she wants to pay for the trip as my b-day pres. and i aint gonnna complain bout that. JBY will prolly bring his girl too. i gotta talk to him this weekend. Ryan needs a headcount cuz he is gonna call and see what we gotta do. so make it snappy!

[matts96zj]

add 75CJ (Bill) to the list. He was along on our Rausch Creek trip for those of you who were there. He also has a winch graemlins/thumbsup.gif

[Vetteboy]

I should know by next week whether I'll be able to get my junk together in time - purely a matter of having money to buy a trans/t-case at this point. If I make it out, it won't sound like my t-case is chopping rocks with a chainsaw.

How 'bout pawoodwagon and braveyota? What are those guys doin?

Also, are we just goin for a day or are we gonna camp out at all?

[Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com]

Originally posted by XJ Fanatic:
i dont think anyone should be riding in the back of ryans xj... :cough:deathtrap:/cough:
don't make fun of my bootie-fabbed deathtrap!!!

frank & john didn't die last time I was there and they rode in the back, fawker http://home.ptd.net/~naumiler/flipoff2.gif

and I already called, we only need reservations if we wanna pay $125 for a trail guide...

**** THAT!!!

[ October 23, 2003, 04:50 PM: Message edited by: Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com ]

[Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com]

Originally posted by vetteboy79:
I should know by next week whether I'll be able to get my junk together in time - purely a matter of having money to buy a trans/t-case at this point. If I make it out, it won't sound like my t-case is chopping rocks with a chainsaw.

How 'bout pawoodwagon and braveyota? What are those guys doin?

Also, are we just goin for a day or are we gonna camp out at all? daytrippin man...

you need someplace to crash afterwards?

[matts96zj]

http://www.boomspeed.com/quadrosvek/boobies.gif trippin man......freakin' college kids

[ October 23, 2003, 05:05 PM: Message edited by: matts96zj ]

[Vetteboy]

Originally posted by Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com:
daytrippin man...

you need someplace to crash afterwards? I dunno yet...depends on what else I got going on that weekend. I might, just so I don't have to drive back home to the shore that night and then drive back to Trenton the next day for school again. If I've got a trans in the first place.

Hopefully this won't become a tradition - "Is Vetteboy coming on this trip?" "Maybe, his rig is broken, he has to put a new ____ in it first." That's been the story for two trips so far...

[96 Sport]

Woody wont be going. I talked to Braveyota and he said if its ok with you guys, he might be able to get his toy together for the trip. He wasnt sure if he could get it done but I can offer him a backseat.

Fanatic: I am glad your g'f is going. Mine was scared she was going to be the only girl. icon_smile_big.gif

PS....Good idea for her to pay for the trip as a B-day present. Maybe I can work that angle since my B-day is soon graemlins/thumbsup.gif

[XJ Fanatic]

Originally posted by 96 Sport:
Woody wont be going. I talked to Braveyota and he said if its ok with you guys, he might be able to get his toy together for the trip. He wasnt sure if he could get it done but I can offer him a backseat.

Fanatic: I am glad your g'f is going. Mine was scared she was going to be the only girl. icon_smile_big.gif

PS....Good idea for her to pay for the trip as a B-day present. Maybe I can work that angle since my B-day is soon graemlins/thumbsup.gif more than likely if jby1999 goes his gf will go she wants a xj to wheel. hes got a huge tj just needs an xj, oh an dhe will have a winch too.
whens your b-day
mine is the 11th

[97XJ_95YJ]

Sounds like fun guys. You still planning on running 3-4 trails? I don't want to be a dead log and have to have you guys drag me through the trails. My YJ is only running 2" of lift and 235's right now. sad_anim.gif *hangs his head in shame* but I have plenty of tow points icon_smile_wink.gif

[96 Sport]

Originally posted by XJ Fanatic:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 96 Sport:
Woody wont be going. I talked to Braveyota and he said if its ok with you guys, he might be able to get his toy together for the trip. He wasnt sure if he could get it done but I can offer him a backseat.

Fanatic: I am glad your g'f is going. Mine was scared she was going to be the only girl. icon_smile_big.gif

PS....Good idea for her to pay for the trip as a B-day present. Maybe I can work that angle since my B-day is soon graemlins/thumbsup.gif more than likely if jby1999 goes his gf will go she wants a xj to wheel. hes got a huge tj just needs an xj, oh an dhe will have a winch too.
whens your b-day
mine is the 11th </font>[/QUOTE]Mine is the 4th. Thats cool. You guys egg me on enough, I might need that winch. LOL. I doubt it. I have to drive it back home.

[Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com]

Originally posted by 97XJ_95YJ:
Sounds like fun guys. You still planning on running 3-4 trails? I don't want to be a dead log and have to have you guys drag me through the trails. My YJ is only running 2" of lift and 235's right now. sad_anim.gif *hangs his head in shame* but I have plenty of tow points icon_smile_wink.gif the way I'm thinkin right now, we might run one or two easier trails as a group and then split up for the guys that want to run tougher stuff.

the last ride I went on, a stock TJ went with, and aside from deep ruts (which can be easily avoided at paragon) it wasn't a big deal.

are you running a shackle lift? that could be a problem, but we can still get ya through icon_smile_wink.gif

[XJ Fanatic]

put it this way you can do it! i have made it through stuff my neighbor was unsure he would make. and than i made it up a nice little trail that nothing under 33s should make but the key is spotting we will all help you out. i wheel with a stock yj with connected swaybars i know how to get you through. i may go on some 3 or 4s ... as long as i can drive home i could care bout body damage 195k by then and smokin 4.0l that still cruises at 100mph i have no resale value bring on the damage graemlins/rock.gif

[XJ Fanatic]

Originally posted by vetteboy79:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com:
daytrippin man...

you need someplace to crash afterwards? I dunno yet...depends on what else I got going on that weekend. I might, just so I don't have to drive back home to the shore that night and then drive back to Trenton the next day for school again. If I've got a trans in the first place.

Hopefully this won't become a tradition - "Is Vetteboy coming on this trip?" "Maybe, his rig is broken, he has to put a new ____ in it first." That's been the story for two trips so far... </font>[/QUOTE]vette you go to school in trenton... my sis grew up around there and she is now in my dads home town of heightstown. my dads fam is from jersey, damn vette if i was goin back to the dorm sat night i would say come crash with me here i am in west chester, hell if you really need a place to crash you can crash in allentown

[Vetteboy]

graemlins/laughing.gif It's nice to know I'll have a place to stay.

I'll see what's going on...one of my friends may want to go along as a passenger so if he does I'll probably end up carting his butt home. But after drivin 3 hours to get to PAP, and spending the day there, I prolly won't want to drive all the way home again.

Yeah I know where hightstown is, right on rt. 33. I go through there sometimes driving from school to home or back. And hell...west chester ain't that far from here either, 'bout an hour maybe. I could probably do it in less but I've got two speeding tickets in the last few weeks so I gotta hold back for a while.

[Dean Shirley]

i'll probably be a rig-whore riding where/when-ever there is a seat. but as long as the weaher is nice, i'll be taking pics/vids (if there are cameras).


OR if all goes well, i may have a new ride by then :crossesfingers:

[MeWantSnow]

Add me to the list.

Camping is a no go..Red Ridge closes at the end of this month. They might be open in Nov...but no bathrooms. I'll be at Paragon next weekend, so I'll find out for sure.

Rich

[XJ Fanatic]

Originally posted by MeWantSnow:
Add me to the list.

Camping is a no go..Red Ridge closes at the end of this month. They might be open in Nov...but no bathrooms. I'll be at Paragon next weekend, so I'll find out for sure.

Rich campin is out from the beginning for us college kids we all have classes come monday and have to fix our rigs so we can get to school on sunday

[97XJ_95YJ]

What day are you guys going? Saturdy?

[Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com]

yup saturday

[phillyzj]

I guess i'm a little late getting in on this post... stupid midterms. Add me to the list. I'll make sure i'm around for the weekend and not working. Can't wait to see everyone there.

[Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com]

graemlins/rock.gif

this is lookin to be a damn good turnout!

we should all plan on meeting up for breakfast around 8am saturday. park opens at 9am, so that should give PLENTY of time to get everyone around on time.

[96 Sport]

Thats cool with me....Think it will be too cold to take my doors off?

[97XJ_95YJ]

I might be in too. I'm actually going next weekend to the toys-for-tots run. I'll be running some of the lower trails. I've never actually been to PAP yet (its like 3 hours away from me). I'll see how the YJ holds up next weekend. If I don't break anything, you can probably count me in for Novemeber too.

Man...I really need more mods. graemlins/icon_banghead.gif

[MeWantSnow]

I'm going for the toys for tots run also...let me know if you want to meet up there.

[Vetteboy]

Originally posted by Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com:
graemlins/rock.gif

this is lookin to be a damn good turnout!

we should all plan on meeting up for breakfast around 8am saturday. park opens at 9am, so that should give PLENTY of time to get everyone around on time. Damn...it's nearly 3 hours for me to get out there. I'm gonna have to leave my house at 5 AM. Fawk...

Ah well. I did it for the rausch creek trip, and I'll do it again. If I get a fawking trans by then.

[XJ Fanatic]

lol vetteboy. anyone know of any restraunts up there?

[phillyzj]

There's a pizza place not too far away, and a nice big gas station w/ food. I think they have like hoagies and stuff.

[YJeff]

i guess i am a little late on this post, but better late than never. i might be interested in going to PAP with you guys. it would be cool to meet all of you. are there trails there that would be ok for a stock yj with 31 inch tires? either way, i'll come up if i am available, and maybe i'll try to bring a friend.

let me know about the difficulty of the trails, i would love to go get covered in mud, but i do not want to get stuck and slow you guys down. i also do not want to break anything major because it is my dd. maybe i'll show up with the top down and doors off if it is not too cold.

jeff

[Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com]

We're getting a very good turnout. There's some stock/stockish guys that want to run some of the lighter trails (which still get pretty good and challengeing for a stocker/mild build) and we can probably get a "stock" group together to kinda split off and do their own little thing.

we can figure it all out once everyone shows up.

[matts96zj]

I'll be running the lighter trails since the ZJ will be fresh back from the body shop... don't need to ruin the nice work that'll be done by then. Have any of you guys who wanna run the stock trails been there before?? If not, I'm gonna ask someone from my local club to give me some good trails to run. I've been there once before, but PAP is huge & you can easily get mixed up, I also don't wanna end up over my, or another's head & stuck, there is really no turning around once you're on a trail.

[XJ Fanatic]

i dunno what i will be running since i have 31s buti will prolly runs 3 or 4

ok for everyone going thats never been there before

you need:
front towhooks
rear towhooks for harder trails
a place to mount a paragon flag
flag

more can be found at paragons website
http://paragonap.com

[96 Sport]

I'll try and run the 35 Hawgs icon_smile_big.gif
http://images.fotopic.net/?id=1193143&outx=600&oq=0

[Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com]

http://cheapxj.com/tires01.jpg

36" TSLs &gt; 35" hawgs

http://home.ptd.net/~naumiler/flipoff2.gif

[RJ]

49" Irok &gt; 36" TSL &gt; 35" hawgs
http://www.offroadshop.com/index.tires.jpg

[XJ Fanatic]

everyone goin to paragon&gt; rj

wait retarded midget&gt;rj

[RJ]

graemlins/rotflmao.gif graemlins/laughing.gif graemlins/rotflmao.gif

[96 Sport]

Originally posted by RJ:
49" Irok &gt; 36" TSL &gt; 35" hawgs
http://www.offroadshop.com/index.tires.jpg Get out of this thread, FAG icon_smile_big.gif

[96 Sport]

Originally posted by Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com:
http://cheapxj.com/tires01.jpg

36" TSLs &gt; 35" hawgs

http://home.ptd.net/~naumiler/flipoff2.gif Yeah and your point is...Oh wait I get it, they taught sasquatch How to count http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung0903/sauer/angry-smiley-047.gif

[Steve]

graemlins/rotflmao.gif graemlins/rotflmao.gif graemlins/rotflmao.gif

[RJ]

graemlins/rotflmao.gif graemlins/rotflmao.gif graemlins/rotflmao.gif

[Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com]

Originally posted by 96 Sport:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com:
http://cheapxj.com/tires01.jpg

36" TSLs &gt; 35" hawgs

http://home.ptd.net/~naumiler/flipoff2.gif Yeah and your point is...Oh wait I get it, they taught sasquatch How to count http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung0903/sauer/angry-smiley-047.gif </font>[/QUOTE]sasquatch can count bones when he breaks them... or teeth when he knocks them on the ground

icon_smile_wink.gif

now... BACK ON F'N TOPIC!!!

where are we meetin'/eatin' before hittin' paragon? :confused:

[96 Sport]

Bring it hairy man..... icon_smile_big.gif

Anyways, mines coming on a trailor so all balls to the wall....I wanna break something icon_smile_wink.gif

As for something to eat, doesn't matter to me, I can find something to eat most anywhere crazy3.gif

[ November 03, 2003, 03:17 PM: Message edited by: 96 Sport ]

[Braveyota]

Goin for breakage now thats what we like to hear graemlins/rock.gif

[Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com]

Originally posted by 96 Sport:
Bring it hairy man..... icon_smile_big.gif

Anyways, mines coming on a trailor so all balls to the wall....I wanna break something icon_smile_wink.gif

As for something to eat, doesn't matter to me, I can find something to eat most anywhere crazy3.gif mine's not comin on a trailer, but it may go home on a rollback icon_smile_big.gif

I mean the place to meet in the morning before we roll into paragon, you know, somplace where we can all be arseholes and get kicked out before they give us the bill, but after we get the food icon_smile_wink.gif

[96 Sport]

I like that idea.

[XJ Fanatic]

Originally posted by Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 96 Sport:
Bring it hairy man..... icon_smile_big.gif

Anyways, mines coming on a trailor so all balls to the wall....I wanna break something icon_smile_wink.gif

As for something to eat, doesn't matter to me, I can find something to eat most anywhere crazy3.gif mine's not comin on a trailer, but it may go home on a rollback icon_smile_big.gif

I mean the place to meet in the morning before we roll into paragon, you know, somplace where we can all be arseholes and get kicked out before they give us the bill, but after we get the food icon_smile_wink.gif </font>[/QUOTE]good idea ryan... i dunno whats up there i still gotta talk to jeff bout it my connection at school wont let me on trillian or aim andyet i have fast as shiit internet connection

[Vetteboy]

I'm ordering a trans and transfer case sometime this week.

Unless I get that junk that Cotter's got in the swap meet, in which case I'm driving out to Wisconsin and pickin it up, then coming home and putting in the trans.

Either way...I'd say 80% chance I'll be there, ready to get my arse kicked out of any restaurant y'all can come up with.

[Vetteboy]

Oh yeah...Ryan...what are the chances of an AX-15 or NV3550 using the same size pilot bushing as a BA 10/5?

I was hoping that I could get away with not having to take the pressure plate and junk down, but if I gotta change the bushing out I think I'll have to.

[97XJ_95YJ]

Well I just ran some of the "stock" trails last weekend at PAP. Had a good time. If there are a few stock or near stock Jeeps going, then I'm probably in. Otherwise I don't want to hold up you bigger Jeeps.

Last weekend was my first time there, so I'm not sure where a good place to meet would be.

Hope to have some pics of the weekend trip up soon. graemlins/thumbsup.gif

[matts96zj]

I'll be running some easy (stock) trails w/my ZJ... I'm already in hot water for taking the ZJ out again so I can't afford any more trail damage. I also have a bud who is tentatively planning on going w/a bone stock YJ. I also know of another ZJ'er who might be up for a run. There will be a group running the lighter stuff so don't worry.

[Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com]

Originally posted by 97XJ_95YJ:
Well I just ran some of the "stock" trails last weekend at PAP. Had a good time. If there are a few stock or near stock Jeeps going, then I'm probably in. Otherwise I don't want to hold up you bigger Jeeps.

Last weekend was my first time there, so I'm not sure where a good place to meet would be.

Hope to have some pics of the weekend trip up soon. graemlins/thumbsup.gif there will be people to wheel with you. icon_smile_wink.gif

[97XJ_95YJ]

Cool. I'll probably be in then. What date is this again :confused: (haven't read the first page of this thread in about 3 weeks icon_smile_big.gif )

[Dean Shirley]

since i'll be the offical 'camera guy'... bring film/cameras/disks/video cameras/tapes/at al.

i'll do as much pic taking and viding as i can.

i am driving up in my mom's jeep... and i'll ride with who ever as a seat for me... but i plan on hiking a lot so i can get pics and vids of all the rigs going graemlins/rock.gif

[XJ Fanatic]

Originally posted by 97XJ_95YJ:
Cool. I'll probably be in then. What date is this again :confused: (haven't read the first page of this thread in about 3 weeks icon_smile_big.gif ) sat after t-day nov 29th

and we may have the west chester 4x4 club comin up... called a guy today after i got a note on my windshield saying that they were goin this weekend

[jby1999]

4 pages and 84 posts later and i make it to the discussion me and xj fanatic had a few weeks ago in my garage. anyways im working on gettin my rig together b4 then and sum breakin miles hopefully ill have all the work done b4 then or im runnin with the d30 and the 8.8. big hold up on parts rite now and frankly im gettin pissed about it. tomorrow im prolly ordering everything or sumtime next week. so ill be up there reguardless. Im hitting Libey's on rt309 in Tamaqua at 8ish awesome food hit me up on cb channel 16/22/29 depends on how clear the channels are on that day. C-ya there!!!!

[XJ Fanatic]

Originally posted by jby1999:
4 pages and 84 posts later and i make it to the discussion me and xj fanatic had a few weeks ago in my garage. anyways im working on gettin my rig together b4 then and sum breakin miles hopefully ill have all the work done b4 then or im runnin with the d30 and the 8.8. big hold up on parts rite now and frankly im gettin pissed about it. tomorrow im prolly ordering everything or sumtime next week. so ill be up there reguardless. Im hitting Libey's on rt309 in Tamaqua at 8ish awesome food hit me up on cb channel 16/22/29 depends on how clear the channels are on that day. C-ya there!!!! libey's is the ****. I used go there every time i went to berwick to visit my family. Yo Jeff i dont know you know of anywhere right around paragon.

[96 Sport]

Woooo Hoooo! icon_smile_big.gif

[matts96zj]

how far off 81 is Tamaqua, I might be up far a trip a little out 'o the way to get the day started off right graemlins/icon322.gif .
ps. since I've been on runs w/the Keystone Krawlers, they always use cb ch. 4 as a "pre-run" channel, kinda a ritual on the way to a ride. graemlins/iono.gif It's usually open, I've never heard anyone on it, except their wheeling groups. (yes, I cruise around w/it on quite frequently)

[ November 10, 2003, 11:24 AM: Message edited by: matts96zj ]

[Vetteboy]

Matt - doesn't look like it's that far off 81. Maybe 10 miles at the most.

I'm gonna have to leave my house at 5:30. Nice.

I'm callin Advance Adapters today, maybe if I can get an order in soon I can have the junk by this weekend and get it installed. Either way, I'm ordering it this week, and dropping it in ASAP. My BA10/5 is makin some really strange noises right now...

[MeWantSnow]

Just got back from Rausch Creek and paragon from this weekend. Oh the carnage!!! Drive shaft...Rear Axle..transfer Case..and both passenger doors! I'll post more info and pics as soon as I get everything all sorted out.

Rich

[79DanCJ]

Originally posted by Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com:
It's lookin like saturday (Nov. 29)

I want a head/Jeep count.

Jeeps:
Mine
Brian's
jby1999's
Justin's
Dan's
Bill (75CJ)
vetteboy's (if you can fix yer junk by then)
Matt's?

I'll have room for Dean if nobody else does (might be ridin' in the backseat tho)

I miss anyone?

Edit:
ok, just called PAP, and all we do is show up, pay @ the trailer, get our sh1t togerther and go have fun icon_smile_big.gif hey guys..I really wanna go on sat the 29th... But I'm worryied about my 33's...When ii'm on the road and go over railroad tracks fast it sometimes rubs...I don't wanna f*** up the fenders.

You think i'll be okay with the sway bar in...(the back is removed)

[Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com]

Originally posted by 96DanXJ:
hey guys..I really wanna go on sat the 29th... But I'm worryied about my 33's...When ii'm on the road and go over railroad tracks fast it sometimes rubs...I don't wanna f*** up the fenders.

You think i'll be okay with the sway bar in...(the back is removed) seriously, either trim, or run smaller tires. I wouldn't worry bout destroying the fenders, fenders have sharp metal edges, I'd worry about destroying the tires!!!

you've seen my trimming, I'm around the same height. I rubbed a little @ paragon. if you keep the swaybars on, you'll hafta run w/ the stockers. 33's or not, you won't make it without some flex.


now go outside, grab yer sawzall and start fawkin cutting. I will bring my mini BFH + sawzall to paragon (I'll be running 36" TSLs and I KNOW i'll have to make some "adjustments" on the trail)

[Vetteboy]

Originally posted by Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com:
I will bring my mini BFH + sawzall to paragon mini BFH? Those exist? :confused:


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[XJ Fanatic]

Originally posted by vetteboy79:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com:
I will bring my mini BFH + sawzall to paragon mini BFH? Those exist? :confused:


graemlins/grinyes.gif graemlins/grinyes.gif </font>[/QUOTE]yeah must only way like 20lbs knowing ryan
and yeah trim! you need flex. as for cb channel always used 17 and the like with jby1999 and my other buds. only got someone on it once or twice.. and those were teh mountain folks up in nesquehoming

[96 Sport]

Originally posted by Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 96DanXJ:
hey guys..I really wanna go on sat the 29th... But I'm worryied about my 33's...When ii'm on the road and go over railroad tracks fast it sometimes rubs...I don't wanna f*** up the fenders.

You think i'll be okay with the sway bar in...(the back is removed) seriously, either trim, or run smaller tires. I wouldn't worry bout destroying the fenders, fenders have sharp metal edges, I'd worry about destroying the tires!!!

you've seen my trimming, I'm around the same height. I rubbed a little @ paragon. if you keep the swaybars on, you'll hafta run w/ the stockers. 33's or not, you won't make it without some flex.


now go outside, grab yer sawzall and start fawkin cutting. I will bring my mini BFH + sawzall to paragon (I'll be running 36" TSLs and I KNOW i'll have to make some "adjustments" on the trail) </font>[/QUOTE]Yeah, I might have to do some "adjustments" too...LOL icon_smile_big.gif

[GreenGrandy]

I heard about this from MattsZj and I am planning on attending with my grand, what are you fellas runnin for intermediate equipment wise? i got 32's lots of protection and a locker, that should equate well right?


also where you guys stayin, i like the forrest inn its cheap, close and nice

[ November 18, 2003, 11:46 AM: Message edited by: GreenGrandy ]

[XJ Fanatic]

Originally posted by GreenGrandy:
I heard about this from MattsZj and I am planning on attending with my grand, what are you fellas runnin for intermediate equipment wise? i got 32's lots of protection and a locker, that should equate well right?


also where you guys stayin, i like the forrest inn its cheap, close and nice I will be running 31s, t-case skid, tow hooks front and rear, open diff. You should be better off than me. And we aint stayin most of us are just drivin that day there.

And for vette boy or anyone comin past allentown we could meet around my place like the lehigh valley mall or something and than head up to libeys so everyone can find it ok

[Vetteboy]

Originally posted by XJ Fanatic:
And for vette boy or anyone comin past allentown we could meet around my place like the lehigh valley mall or something and than head up to libeys so everyone can find it ok Sounds good. I ordered the trans and junk today and it should arrive in 4-5 business days. Hopefully that means I'll be seein you guys out there. In the meantime, I'm gonna fab up some front hooks, maybe some more skids, and finish the rock rails and bolt 'em on.

[matts96zj]

I'm hopin' to see you guys at libby's but I'm not sure. 75CJ (Bill) will be following me & possibly a bud of mine in a bone stock YJ. If I don't see you guys @ libby's I'll see ya'll at PAP probably around 9-9:30ish?? sound good?

[Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com]

honestly, I wanna be on the trail as EARLY as possible.

park opens at 9am, we should be lined up @ 8:45 in front of paragon, ready to fukkin go.

I also want to get a good group shot @ the staging/airdown area

[XJ Fanatic]

yeah ryan has what me and him were hopin for... early as possible.. its gonna take us all awhile to register and ****.

[Vetteboy]

Really...I'm going to be leaving my house before it gets light out. graemlins/icon_banghead.gif

Would anyone be willing to donate about 12 square feet of floor space to a fellow jeeper who'd rather not wake up and drive before daybreak?

[XJ Fanatic]

Originally posted by vetteboy79:
Really...I'm going to be leaving my house before it gets light out. graemlins/icon_banghead.gif

Would anyone be willing to donate about 12 square feet of floor space to a fellow jeeper who'd rather not wake up and drive before daybreak? wish i could just give up floor space but its my rents house... damn wish my dad was a jeeper.

vette where will you be leaving from? the shore?

[ November 18, 2003, 06:15 PM: Message edited by: XJ Fanatic ]

[Vetteboy]

Yup...basically as far east as you can go. Almost due east of Allentown, straight to the ocean.

[79DanCJ]

vette i'm not sure what are asking...there is a camp grounds like 10 mins from Paragon, Go there...Maybe people do that, and you can sleep for like 10 bucks a night..In the back of the jeep, or if you have a tent and what not.

EDIT
Oh your saying you don't wanna leave sat morning,Its not that bad, a few of us NJ folk usually meet at the Delware Gap, its the first exit after it, or sencond..i'll have to get back to you on that.

[ November 18, 2003, 08:25 PM: Message edited by: 96DanXJ ]

[MeWantSnow]

Red Ridge Lake Campground is open year round. It's 10 minutes from paragon and offeres primitave camping for $10 a night. That means no water, bathrooms or electric. I'm only 1 1/2 hours away, so I'll be heading up early Sat morning.

I'll be more than happy to lead a stock group...I don't want to beat on it too bad because I just don't trust the Jeep yet since getting it running again from my last trip to Paragon. Now I'm getting some NASTY low speed vibes...hopefully I can fix that before the run.

[Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com]

Originally posted by vetteboy79:
Yup...basically as far east as you can go. Almost due east of Allentown, straight to the ocean. if ya feel like drivin an hour the wrong way I can hook ya up w/ a place to crash. icon_smile_big.gif

[matts96zj]

Originally posted by Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com:
honestly, I wanna be on the trail as EARLY as possible.

park opens at 9am, we should be lined up @ 8:45 in front of paragon, ready to fukkin go.

I also want to get a good group shot @ the staging/airdown area ok, well then, I won't see you guys at breakfast. I'll see ya at PAP a minute or three before 9 am.

[YJeff]

Originally posted by XJ Fanatic:
And for vette boy or anyone comin past allentown we could meet around my place like the lehigh valley mall or something and than head up to libeys so everyone can find it ok [/QB]ya, if i'm available to go, i'll meet up with you guys in allentown somewhere. i'll have to see what my work schedule is. but i'll just shoot up 309 and meet you all up there somewhere.

jeff

[Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com]

Originally posted by matts96zj:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ryan, aka: CheapXJ.com:
honestly, I wanna be on the trail as EARLY as possible.

park opens at 9am, we should be lined up @ 8:45 in front of paragon, ready to fukkin go.

I also want to get a good group shot @ the staging/airdown area ok, well then, I won't see you guys at breakfast. I'll see ya at PAP a minute or three before 9 am. </font>[/QUOTE]c'mon, get yer arse out of bed early. it won't kill you!

[phillyzj]

Registration can take forever up there. I was there this past weekend and there were probably 100 rigs there or so. There was a line at the gate before they opened it at 9. If we are ready to go which could be hard we could be registered quickly. If we end up waiting for people to show up which happened this past weekend it could be like 10 before we get out.

I'd suggest being as early as possible. I was up there around 8:15 this past weekend and there were already tons of people gassing up and whatnot. 8:15 is way early though, i just had to change my tires so i was there then.

Vette: if you want to crash at my dad's place that's cool, but he's like 1.25 hours out of the way in Hershey.


Oh, and to rant a little,i can't believe PAP keeps the rats at 35 bucks a day even though their hours are cut down to 9-4, that's 2 hours less wheeling times, uhggg. alright, ventilation complete.

[XJ Fanatic]

anyone who wants to meet me in allentown shoot me a private message soon we will just meet up at my house

[97XJ_95YJ]

I might be joining you guys (about 50/50 right now due to another thing I have to do the same day). If I do go, I'll just meet you guys there. I'm west of PAP and like 3-hours away, so I'll just meet you there. I'll let you know for sure if I'm coming next week.

[GreenGrandy]

You know whats awesome, when 6 days before you wheel a rear outer seal goes; then you find out a pin in your locker sheared in half and no other sign of damage, but you cant run it missing a part. Basically I am whining because I will be open instead of locked lol

[XJ Fanatic]

LMAO open

Anyway guys and gals heres the deal with meeting at libey's for those of you from 80 take the 309 exit go south on 309. Take 309 thru tamaqua and a little while down you will come across libeys on your right side.

Anyone else shoot me questions i will let you know. And if anyone wants to meet me at my house in allentown and follow me to libeys let me know we will be leavin here around 7 and if you are vetteboy check you pm

[96 Sport]

so what time are we hooking up?

[XJ Fanatic]

Originally posted by 96 Sport:
so what time are we hooking up? 7.30 libeys

8.45 or a lil earlier at paragon's gates