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diesel298
10-04-2006, 12:12 PM
how does one Identify a gerrset as High pinion Vs low pinion
when the gears are just sitting in a box?

JeepXJ3
10-04-2006, 12:25 PM
I didnt know that mattered, I always thought that was all in the design of the housing itself and didnt have much to do with the gears themselves...

Good question.

diesel298
10-04-2006, 12:37 PM
I didnt know that mattered, I always thought that was all in the design of the housing itself and didnt have much to do with the gears themselves...

Good question.
yeah so did i
i have recentley learned otherwise

then i looked in a few catalogs and the companys part# are different also

4Lo
10-04-2006, 01:02 PM
Yea I think HP = reverse cut ? This doesn't help you id it though...

JeepXJ3
10-04-2006, 01:05 PM
Yea I think HP = reverse cut ? This doesn't help you id it though...

Now I always thought that had to do with weather or not that was a front or rear diff... Wow, I have much to learn here... :dunno:

Vetteboy
10-04-2006, 01:39 PM
Wow... :lol:

Yeah, high-pinion and low-pinion gearsets are totally different and are specially designed for their respective housings.

Technically the 'cut' is the same for both, because the same direction of rotation on the pinion results in the same direction of the ring gear for both sets. High-pinion sets are known as 'reverse spiral' due to the direction of the helical bevel used.

If you were to simply take a diff and flip it upside down (like, make a 'low pinion' housing 'high pinion') it would spin the wrong way, because it's a standard spiral gear set with the ring gear on the opposite side.

If you have the gears, there are a few ways to tell which is which by the direction of the helix etc, but the easiest way is this:

1) Put the ring gear flat on the floor, teeth facing up.

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2) Mesh the pinion gear with it so that the 'yoke' end is pointing to the right. If it goes together like this:

O_

then it's low pinion. If it's more like



then it's high pinion.

Dig?

JeepXJ3
10-04-2006, 01:54 PM
I dig :pimp: Now im still a bit fuzzy on reverse cut...:confused:

Timmay
10-04-2006, 02:00 PM
Wow... :lol:

Yeah, high-pinion and low-pinion gearsets are totally different and are specially designed for their respective housings.

Technically the 'cut' is the same for both, because the same direction of rotation on the pinion results in the same direction of the ring gear for both sets. High-pinion sets are known as 'reverse spiral' due to the direction of the helical bevel used.

If you were to simply take a diff and flip it upside down (like, make a 'low pinion' housing 'high pinion') it would spin the wrong way, because it's a standard spiral gear set with the ring gear on the opposite side.

If you have the gears, there are a few ways to tell which is which by the direction of the helix etc, but the easiest way is this:

1) Put the ring gear flat on the floor, teeth facing up.

O

2) Mesh the pinion gear with it so that the 'yoke' end is pointing to the right. If it goes together like this:

O_

then it's low pinion. If it's more like



then it's high pinion.

Dig?

Werd. Couldnt have explained it better myself. :pimp:

Do you even do any work when you are on the clock? :lol:

diesel298
10-04-2006, 03:59 PM
Wow... :lol:

Yeah, high-pinion and low-pinion gearsets are totally different and are specially designed for their respective housings.

Technically the 'cut' is the same for both, because the same direction of rotation on the pinion results in the same direction of the ring gear for both sets. High-pinion sets are known as 'reverse spiral' due to the direction of the helical bevel used.

If you were to simply take a diff and flip it upside down (like, make a 'low pinion' housing 'high pinion') it would spin the wrong way, because it's a standard spiral gear set with the ring gear on the opposite side.

If you have the gears, there are a few ways to tell which is which by the direction of the helix etc, but the easiest way is this:

1) Put the ring gear flat on the floor, teeth facing up.

O

2) Mesh the pinion gear with it so that the 'yoke' end is pointing to the right. If it goes together like this:

O_

then it's low pinion. If it's more like



then it's high pinion.

Dig?
i know all about the cut/ roation...stuff
and i get what ya sayin bout the how to

but whats sayin your not lookin at it backwards?

diesel298
10-04-2006, 04:04 PM
nevermind

diesel298
10-04-2006, 04:04 PM
ok so i have a set of HP d30 gears

Vetteboy
10-04-2006, 07:43 PM
Got everything under control there, Ray? :lol:

Do you even do any work when you are on the clock? :lol:

Sure, but I always have :jeepin: and :pirate: and :naxja: and :rc4x4: and :gmail: going in the background. Firefox tabbed browsing FTW. They all go away with a quick press of ALT-tab. :)

Today was actually pretty slow, but I got some pretty large projects completed real early today (much faster than I was expecting). Nothing like spec'ing out a steel mill transport table system for Siemens worth at least $586,000 at 8:30 AM when you can barely see past the cup of coffee on the desk. :D

diesel298
10-05-2006, 12:12 AM
Got everything under control there, Ray? :lol:


yeah.. all good now
thanks :)

nblehm
10-05-2006, 12:16 AM
Wow... :lol:



yeah serious