PDA

View Full Version : 2007 Toyota Tundra


HotSEXJ
08-08-2006, 01:23 AM
http://www.motorportal.com/Toyota_Lexus%20news/images/2007_Tundra_121.jpg

http://www.motorportal.com/Toyota_Lexus%20news/images/2007_Tundra_131.jpg

http://www.motorportal.com/Toyota_Lexus%20news/images/2007_Tundra_101.jpg

http://www.motorportal.com/Toyota_Lexus%20news/images/2007_Tundra_29.jpg

http://www.motorportal.com/Toyota_Lexus%20news/images/2007_Tundra_161.jpg

http://www.motorportal.com/Toyota_Lexus%20news/images/2007_Tundra_181.jpg

"From bumper-to-bumper, under the hood and from the inside out the new Tundra is a true American truck that will set a new benchmark in the full-size truck segment," said Jim Lentz, TMS group vice president and general manager. "It will be aimed at the ‘True Trucker,' the true opinion leaders among full-size owners. True Truckers are highly credible because they use, punish, and demand the most out of the pickups they buy."

The expanded size and power of the new Tundra will be reflected in its ability to tow over 10,000 pounds. To achieve this towing capacity every major component was designed for maximum strength, durability and reliability over the long haul. This will be accomplished with an all-new 5.7-liter i-Force V8 engine manufactured at Toyota's Alabama engine plant. The V8 will be mated to a new heavy-duty six-speed automatic transmission. In addition to the new powertrain, Tundra will also come equipped with heavy-duty front disc brakes with four-piston calipers and vented rotors increased by nearly one and one-half inches, and standard rear disc brakes. High capacity cooling and electrical systems will help Tundra tow heavy loads through the toughest weather. Finally, Tundra will ride on a new rock-solid chassis platform with 30 percent higher tensile strength steel."

**Yeah, I know nothing new or late breaking, but I think it's sweet.

What do you think?

10,000 lbs doesn't sound to bad for a gasser!

Not that I'm biased or anything ;)

HotSEXJ
08-08-2006, 01:32 AM
http://www.motorportal.com/Toyota_Lexus%20news/images/2007_Tundra_271.jpg

Link to amazing picture of interior that's too big to post (http://www.motorportal.com/Toyota_Lexus%20news/images/2007_Tundra_31.jpg)

The Whole Article (http://www.motorportal.com/Toyota_Lexus%20news/2007%20Toyota%20Tundra.htm)

HotSEXJ
08-09-2006, 12:11 AM
Glad to see everyone's afraid of a little Japan muscle :f2:

Fletch1
08-09-2006, 01:04 AM
Like the big picture of the 4wd undercarage with the super sexy street tires.

nblehm
08-09-2006, 01:56 AM
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Shane
08-09-2006, 02:04 AM
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
:werd: I just don't like the new Toyota's that much

HotSEXJ
08-09-2006, 03:59 PM
Well I think it's sweet :f2:

Leadfoot
08-09-2006, 04:53 PM
It doesn't look any worse than the then GM stuff.......I hate to admit that though.

As far as the towing capability...just because it CAN tow UP TO 10,000 lbs doesn't mean you will feel comfortable driving it with taht weight. I have ridden with several firends who were towing heavy (under specs) with a half ton and it was not a fun trip.

forsakenfuture
08-09-2006, 08:15 PM
That thing is uuuuggglllyyy.

Aidan
08-09-2006, 08:17 PM
yea, i like the tacos, but these tundras kinda not so much on the pretty side

Jeepin Jason
08-09-2006, 08:30 PM
I really hope that's not their "four door" model...

HotSEXJ
08-10-2006, 12:39 AM
It's not.

bbaCJ8
08-10-2006, 07:59 AM
Should be a kickasss truck. We've got an 04 or 05 Tundra here at work....that thing does everything great, and its new cost was less than a freakin Colorado!! It's got great power empty, adequate power towing, extremely smooth and quiet, looks good, comfy interior, etc. It's definitely on the small side for a 1/2 ton truck, which I don't like, but it sounds like they addressed that for the new model.
The new Tundra will probably walk all over the so-called 'big 3' as far as reliability, quality, and durability, and it sounds like it'll finally be competing, if not winning, in capabilities and the important truck stuff. If I were in the market for a new 1/2 ton I wouldn't hesitate to check those out, especially since they're sure to be significantly cheaper than the competition.

Toyota's HD truck coming out in the next couple years is gonna be kickasss. No significant details as of yet, but they seem to be going in the right direction. Word is, they seemed to really take note of the info in a market study done by one of their suppliers' interns....that the American HD truck market wants certain things that convey strength, toughness, simplicity, and reliability: solid axles, good sized tires, at least an option for manual shift t-case, etc.
I hear it's gonna have a pretty burly t-case too;)

Jeepin Jason
08-10-2006, 09:16 AM
While I don't have the experience with the trucks that Sean does, I kinda agree with him. I think the biggest hurdle for Toy is going to be public opinion. Toy's previous "big" pickups have really fallen short in the past IMHO, but this new one looks pretty nice. I like the exterior better than the interior though. They should really show off the 4-dr model though. Do lots of people in y'all's areas by 2-dr or extendcab trucks very much? I bet 75% of new trucks sold down here are 4-dr models, whether they're cowboy limo's for Hank Hills like ours, or landscape work trucks.

Sounds like they may be on the right track for an HD truck too, I was actually going to ask if anyone had heard if Toy was going to offer a 3/4-ton type truck, maybe even with a diesel? :brows: Hmm, that could be interesting... Toyota 3/4-ton truck, diesel motor, solid axles front/rear, 33" tires stock... They should slap a diesel in the 1/2-ton Tundra too, that'd give them a real edge over the Big 3's 1/2-trucks.

I think the waist line on the doors is too high though, makes the windows kinda short, like what Hummer does.

:lol: Tundra Megacab? :yes:

http://www.motortrend.com/future/112_0511_spied_02z+2007_toyota_tundra_pickup+top_f ront_left.jpg

bbaCJ8
08-10-2006, 09:34 AM
Sounds like they may be on the right track for an HD truck too, I was actually going to ask if anyone had heard if Toy was going to offer a 3/4-ton type truck, maybe even with a diesel? :brows: Hmm, that could be interesting... Toyota 3/4-ton truck, diesel motor, solid axles front/rear, 33" tires stock... They should slap a diesel in the 1/2-ton Tundra too, that'd give them a real edge over the Big 3's 1/2-trucks.
I believe the 3/4 is being introduced as a 2009 model, and the diesel will be out a year later.....it's rumored to be a beast. Drivetrain durability testing in the range of 300,000+ km at 900 lb-ft. I've heard both 300k and 700k km, so not sure which is accurate. First t-case Toyota is having built by someone else.

I hear the Toyota guys are kind of a PIA to work with cuz they're anal about everything, but we've seen the excellent vehicle that that mentality creates. I'm really hoping they listen to the truck advice that I, oops I mean the unnamed intern, gave them. I know trucks, I know what people want out of HD trucks, and I told them straight up what they should seriously consider.
1: IFS is generally looked down upon. It's seen as weaker, more complex(and therefore more things to fail under hard use), harder to modify, etc. It's not a bad design and it provides for a better ride, but it's not what many HD truck buyers want....even with all the advancements, it's just not viewed as beefy enough. There are people who won't buy GMs HD trucks for that reason alone.
2: Manual shift t-cases, whether better or not, are often viewed as more reliable.....using your own strength to engage it, feeling through the lever the position it's in, not having to worry about a motor burning out an an inopportune time, etc.
3: Bigger is better in the American truck market. Space, beefy looks, etc. One of the big dogs in their eng department likes the idea of small tires....easier to engineer cuz of less stresses, less NVH issues, etc. But that's not what the real users of these trucks want. Little tires aren't gonna cut it in muddy construction sites or any number of other rugged terrain. Even trucks that come with 32s+ often get bigger tires before being put into use. Roomy wheelwells would be another big plus.
If they're gonna effectively compete with the 'big 3' they're gonna have to make some big steps to prove themselves. Toyota is generally viewed as reliable, not tough and rugged....they'll need to make this truck a monster to get the respect they deserve.

Jeepin Jason
08-10-2006, 09:59 AM
1: IFS is generally looked down upon. It's seen as weaker, more complex(and therefore more things to fail under hard use), harder to modify, etc. It's not a bad design and it provides for a better ride, but it's not what many HD truck buyers want....even with all the advancements, it's just not viewed as beefy enough. There are people who won't buy GMs HD trucks for that reason alone.

:raiseshand: Solid front axle was a major selling point for us, for all the reasons you listed. :thumbsup: I think this point and their diesel motor will make or break their HD truck. Jennifer was actually shocked when I told her that the GM HD trucks were IFS, and she was the one that basically said, "screw that, our truck is gonna have a solid front axle" (I love that woman!). :yes:

2: Manual shift t-cases, whether better or not, are often viewed as more reliable.....using your own strength to engage it, feeling through the lever the position it's in, not having to worry about a motor burning out an an inopportune time, etc.

The Megacab, 3500 anyway, is only available with an electronic shift t'case, but honestly on this truck it didn't really matter much to me. I actually kinda like the extra cubby space on the floor console by not having a shifter down there. I do agree though, that the option should be there for those that want it, just like offering a 6-sp manual trans.

3: Bigger is better in the American truck market. Space, beefy looks, etc. One of the big dogs in their eng department likes the idea of small tires....easier to engineer cuz of less stresses, less NVH issues, etc. But that's not what the real users of these trucks want. Little tires aren't gonna cut it in muddy construction sites or any number of other rugged terrain. Even trucks that come with 32s+ often get bigger tires before being put into use. Roomy wheelwells would be another big plus.

Dude, you should hang out on the Dodge/Cummins forums (if you don't already). You guys think I moved fast on our truck? A guy on one of the forums I'm on just posted pics of his new '06 Megacab 2500 -- doesn't even have the tags for it yet and he's already done a 6" lift and 37's. Leveling kits are like BB's in the Jeep world - everyone starting out has them.

Space was the main reason we got the Megacab over the regular Dodge quadcab. Size-wise, the Ford F250 was our "bench mark" for space/size.

The stock tires were OK, but as everyone stated, these trucks, especially the Megacab, just need bigger tires to "look" right. We were planning bigger tires before we even drove off the lot with the truck. Our new tires are basically 35's, currently with no lift, on stock rims, and they fit fine.

If they're gonna effectively compete with the 'big 3' they're gonna have to make some big steps to prove themselves. Toyota is generally viewed as reliable, not tough and rugged....they'll need to make this truck a monster to get the respect they deserve.

Exactly! :thumbsup:

bbaCJ8
08-10-2006, 10:13 AM
Good to hear that I gave good advice....not that I really had any doubts;)

hwm3
08-10-2006, 10:17 AM
If the specs that were put out on this truck turn out to be true, it's gonna be some serious competition. Especially with the gearing available in a 6-speed tranny.

The Nissan Titan was a pretty good first try at a fullsize truck, so I expect this Toyota to be a great fullsize. The Nissan would have been an even greater success if it wasn't for rear axle issues, and the very aggressive exterior styling. I feel pretty sure that Toyota won't have the axle issues, and the styling isn't bad either. Nice to see them finally make a real fullsize truck.

bbaCJ8
08-10-2006, 10:21 AM
Beefy 5 lug 1/2 ton axle with removeable 3rd member.....mmmm the possibilities....

Jeepin Jason
08-10-2006, 10:23 AM
weird, I hadn't even noticed they were 5-lug... I wonder why Toy did that? Aren't all their other trucks/suvs 6-lug??

bbaCJ8
08-10-2006, 10:31 AM
weird, I hadn't even noticed they were 5-lug... I wonder why Toy did that? Aren't all their other trucks/suvs 6-lug??
Yeah they usually do 6 lug....I even put that in my post, then went back and looked at the pics. I was surprised too. That'd be kickasss if they're 5x5.5....that'd open up all kinds of cool possibilities, especially if they offer a factory locker.

hwm3
08-10-2006, 10:35 AM
weird, I hadn't even noticed they were 5-lug... I wonder why Toy did that? Aren't all their other trucks/suvs 6-lug??

Everything is 6-lug exept the Land Cruiser and the new Tundra. The old Tundra is 6-lug.

Nice to see they won't be using the axles from the old Tundra.

HotSEXJ
08-10-2006, 12:51 PM
Everything is 6-lug exept the Land Cruiser and the new Tundra. The old Tundra is 6-lug.

Nice to see they won't be using the axles from the old Tundra.

In the above undercarriage picture it looks a lot like my T100/Tundra axle. Are we sure it's a new axle and not just 5-lug shafts?

https://filebox.vt.edu/users/hjsmith/T100Diff.JPG

bbaCJ8
08-10-2006, 12:53 PM
Dude, someone stole half your leaf pack :p

hwm3
08-10-2006, 01:01 PM
In the above undercarriage picture it looks a lot like my T100/Tundra axle. Are we sure it's a new axle and not just 5-lug shafts?

I'm fairly confident that Toyota didn't just swap in 5 lug shafts. Based on payload and towing capabilities of the new Tundra vs. old Tundra, I'd say it's a new axle entirely.

HotSEXJ
08-10-2006, 04:01 PM
Dude, someone stole half your leaf pack :p

rides like this:
http://www.shawnwall.com/images/kellybday/cloud.jpg
:f2:

Harold (hErold?)

I'm glad to hear that! Another sweet Toyota axle on earth is just fine with me!

The T100/Tundra axle is 30 spline and really damn tough.

Turns my 215's no sweat :lol:

bbaCJ8
08-10-2006, 04:39 PM
rides like this:
http://www.shawnwall.com/images/kellybday/cloud.jpg
:f2::
I'm sure it does....just had to give ya sh1t.

My heavy duty 6 leaf packs ride like this:
http://www.jtsrr.org/grfx/cinder%20block.jpg


And when I searched for a cinder block pic I found this:
http://www.mccullagh.org/db9/10d-11/cinder-block-sculpture.jpg
'Artists' have too much fukkin time on their hands:screwy: :roflmao:

Static-XJ
08-10-2006, 06:48 PM
I wanna see a pic of it next to a big three half ton. :lol:

hwm3
08-10-2006, 07:26 PM
I wanna see a pic of it next to a big three half ton. :lol:

I can't give you a pic, but the dimensions compare pretty well.

Tundra overall length: 228.7 inches

F150 overall length: 229.8 inches

Tundra width: 79.9 inches

F150 width: 78.9 inches

Tundra height: 76.4 inches

F150 height: 75.6 inches

Tundra wheelbase: 145.7 inches

F150 wheelbase: 144.5 inches

Tundra bed length: 78.7 inches

F150 bed length: 78.8 inches

Tundra bed width (between wheelwells): 50 inches

F150 bed width (between wheelwells): 50 inches

Tundra bed depth: 22.3 inches

F150 bed depth: 22.3 inches

Looks pretty good to me. ;)

MBood82
08-10-2006, 08:05 PM
They should really show off the 4-dr model though. Do lots of people in y'all's areas by 2-dr or extendcab trucks very much? I bet 75% of new trucks sold down here are 4-dr models, whether they're cowboy limo's for Hank Hills like ours, or landscape work trucks.


4 door trucks are fairly common but the majority are still 2 door and extended cabs in these parts. People want useable beds and that to them means the 8 foot bed. Also, they tend to be cheaper and since stuff costs so much in New England and Maine has no economy.... people are poor.

XJAndy
08-10-2006, 10:09 PM
Over the past month I have spent alot of time in an f-250 4 door and shorter bed. All I have to say is if you plan to haul anything don't go that way. The truck I drive is the company truck and I use it to get lumber for work and trying to haul anything over 12' is a real PIA. The worst is 20' 1by trim, even opening the rear window and sliding it all the way to the front glass it hangs out way past the tail gate and bows like a biotch. For regular folks a 4 door is probably all they would ever need but for a work truck 4 door sucks to hauling stuff.

hwm3
08-10-2006, 10:48 PM
Over the past month I have spent alot of time in an f-250 4 door and shorter bed. All I have to say is if you plan to haul anything don't go that way. The truck I drive is the company truck and I use it to get lumber for work and trying to haul anything over 12' is a real PIA. The worst is 20' 1by trim, even opening the rear window and sliding it all the way to the front glass it hangs out way past the tail gate and bows like a biotch. For regular folks a 4 door is probably all they would ever need but for a work truck 4 door sucks to hauling stuff.

You know the 8' bed is available on the F250 crew cab.

Jeepin Jason
08-10-2006, 11:45 PM
yeah, but that 172" wheelbase has got to be a ***** to park. Tons of crew cab longbeds and duallies down here though. Man, ours is 'only' 160" wheelbase and it's bad enough. :lol:

hwm3
08-10-2006, 11:53 PM
yeah, but that 172" wheelbase has got to be a ***** to park. Tons of crew cab longbeds and duallies down here though. Man, ours is 'only' 160" wheelbase and it's bad enough. :lol:

No ****. The Excursion is a PITA to park, and it's only 137" wheelbase. That thing is like driving a school bus.

HotSEXJ
08-11-2006, 12:50 PM
I can't give you a pic, but the dimensions compare pretty well.

Tundra overall length: 228.7 inches

F150 overall length: 229.8 inches

Tundra width: 79.9 inches

F150 width: 78.9 inches

Tundra height: 76.4 inches

F150 height: 75.6 inches

Tundra wheelbase: 145.7 inches

F150 wheelbase: 144.5 inches

Tundra bed length: 78.7 inches

F150 bed length: 78.8 inches

Tundra bed width (between wheelwells): 50 inches

F150 bed width (between wheelwells): 50 inches

Tundra bed depth: 22.3 inches

F150 bed depth: 22.3 inches

Looks pretty good to me. ;)

So it's wider, taller, and longer wheelbase....whoa!

iluvjeepchiks
08-11-2006, 01:41 PM
I could see a yuppy towin his snow mobile trailer with that

Shane
08-11-2006, 02:29 PM
No ****. The Excursion is a PITA to park, and it's only 137" wheelbase. That thing is like driving a school bus.
Meh, they aren't really that bad. As much as i love Crew Cabs i would never get the 8ft bed. For me, i have no problems parking it....it just sticks out like a mofo. Ext. Cab would be perfect with a long bed. It would be about as long as i would want to DD. I personally like the Crew Cab, but it's just a trade off.

hwm3
08-11-2006, 06:35 PM
So it's wider, taller, and longer wheelbase....whoa!

When you look at the dimensions, there's little doubt who they are trying to compete with. Hell, they wanted to call the Tundra a T-150. :screwy:

VTJeepCJ84
08-11-2006, 07:00 PM
I want to see the numbers for the new 5.7, given what the latest 4.7 puts out should be mean, and i'm expecting it to be more than the nissan.
I'm not overly fond of the styling, but i'm not a huge fan of the direction that the styling is going with all the auto companies.

forsakenfuture
08-11-2006, 10:33 PM
When you look at the dimensions, there's little doubt who they are trying to compete with. Hell, they wanted to call the Tundra a T-150. :screwy:


I remember that,i remember the photos of the prototype with T-150 on the side.

HotSEXJ
08-12-2006, 12:49 PM
I remember that,i remember the photos of the prototype with T-150 on the side.

Ford, Chevy, and Dodge all have "150" or "1500," "250" or "2500" and so on on their trucks, why couldn't Toyota do it?

Are you saying that a Dodge 1500 is copying a Chevy 1500? :f2:

It's one of those things that's always been going on, not a new thing.

I'm gonna go hop in my T100 and :driving:

hwm3
08-12-2006, 03:48 PM
Ford, Chevy, and Dodge all have "150" or "1500," "250" or "2500" and so on on their trucks, why couldn't Toyota do it?

Are you saying that a Dodge 1500 is copying a Chevy 1500? :f2:

It's one of those things that's always been going on, not a new thing.

I'm gonna go hop in my T100 and :driving:

I thought Chevy called their truck the Silverado, and Dodge called theirs the Ram. :dunno:

XJ Fanatic
08-12-2006, 07:37 PM
lol, dodge used to call their trucks d100, w100, d200, w200 etc. Everything dodge at one point was the Ram...

XJ Fanatic
08-12-2006, 07:40 PM
it looks to me like its the same axle that hunter has, even the drain plug is identical. They prolly share the same center and upped the spline count/shaft diameter.

And toy 2wds have been 5 lug for ages, pretty sure they are 5x4.5 too

HotSEXJ
08-12-2006, 10:06 PM
it looks to me like its the same axle that hunter has, even the drain plug is identical. They prolly share the same center and upped the spline count/shaft diameter.

And toy 2wds have been 5 lug for ages, pretty sure they are 5x4.5 too

*Except for T100's; the 2WD models are 6-lug. All have the T100/Tundra axle (Commonly referred to as "8.4" but actualy has an 8" ring gear)

"The ring gear actually measures 8", but it is not compatible with the older 8" diffs at all. The extra strength of this diff comes from the bearing cap/truss and large diameter pinion gear shaft." -- ErikB

http://home.4x4wire.com/erik/diffs/#rear

Jeeperoni
08-12-2006, 10:55 PM
toyota is going to hell with their new models...they look to futurey. GM has their new trucks in this months motor trend.

http://photocdn.sohu.com/20060614/Img243716298.jpg
http://photocdn.sohu.com/20060614/Img243716299.jpg
those are of the new silverado, which copies the F-150's suspension?Humm...anyways i know a owner the biggest ford dealership in NC and he says the new F-150's should be out in 08ish..after the new expeditions come out..

HotSEXJ
08-13-2006, 12:28 AM
toyota is going to hell with their new models...they look to futurey. GM has their new trucks in this months motor trend.

http://photocdn.sohu.com/20060614/Img243716298.jpg
http://photocdn.sohu.com/20060614/Img243716299.jpg
those are of the new silverado, which copies the F-150's suspension?Humm...anyways i know a owner the biggest ford dealership in NC and he says the new F-150's should be out in 08ish..after the new expeditions come out..

CAn't wait for the next gen F150 to come out so I can afford an '04

XterrainJ
01-13-2007, 12:13 PM
heres a comparison in demensions between the new tundra and the mega cab dodge

Mega cab/Crew Max

Head Room (front/rear)
40.8/40.5 40.2/38.7

Hip Room
65.0/64.4 63./62.6

Leg Room
41./44.2 42.5/44.5

Shoulder Room
67./66.5 66.6/65.4


pretty sweet truck if you ask me

XterrainJ
01-13-2007, 12:15 PM
it looks to me like its the same axle that hunter has, even the drain plug is identical. They prolly share the same center and upped the spline count/shaft diameter.

And toy 2wds have been 5 lug for ages, pretty sure they are 5x4.5 too

2WD tundras are 6 lug

HotSEXJ
01-13-2007, 05:12 PM
http://photos-400.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v49/181/51/6201882/n6201882_31829400_7388.jpg

Gabe Watt
01-13-2007, 05:30 PM
wow, hunter's truck is bleeding tranny fluid, cant say im shocked

Jeeperoni
01-13-2007, 05:44 PM
i think he's showing that they are 6 lug

HotSEXJ
01-15-2007, 12:36 AM
Bingo - and it was only "bleeding" antifreeze because I pulled the plug.

It's got a manual transmission, so no "fluid" so to speak

But yeah, my Made in Japan 2WD T100 is 6 lug. 3RZ (2.7L 4 cylinder) T100's are 6 lug as well as far as I know.

And yes, the rear axle in my truck is the same as that in a Tundra, Sequoia, New Tundra. I know some of those have disc brakes, mine is drum.

Scott-XJ
01-15-2007, 03:53 AM
Glad to see everyone's afraid of a little Japan muscle :f2:
I'd **** it. :dunno:

mcamish01
01-15-2007, 11:18 AM
I'll be interested to see how that little rear axle holds up to towing 10,000 lbs...until then I'll be hanging on to my D80 and real 8ft bed. Not to mention when i'm driving a big *** truck I want as much visibilty as possible, not some tiny little aesthetically pleasing portholes.

Jeepin Jason
01-15-2007, 11:34 AM
I'll be interested to see how that little rear axle holds up to towing 10,000 lbs...until then I'll be hanging on to my D80 and real 8ft bed. Not to mention when i'm driving a big *** truck I want as much visibilty as possible, not some tiny little aesthetically pleasing portholes.

If Toy's new TV spots are true, the axle in the new Tundra has considerably larger internals than those of other 1/2-ton trucks (though I'm sure they picked whomever has the smallest 1/2-ton rear axle). Best analogy I can think of is D44 vs D35.

D80... The Tundra is a 1/2-truck. Comparing it against a 1-ton isn't a fair, or valid comparison.

8' bed... both the regular cab and double-cab models are available with a 97.6" bed (8.13 ft).

Visibility... shouldn't be any worse than the new F150's.

Scott-XJ
01-15-2007, 01:05 PM
http://photos-400.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v49/181/51/6201882/n6201882_31829400_7388.jpg
Awww... the little guy wet himself. :D

mcamish01
01-17-2007, 01:49 PM
If Toy's new TV spots are true, the axle in the new Tundra has considerably larger internals than those of other 1/2-ton trucks (though I'm sure they picked whomever has the smallest 1/2-ton rear axle). Best analogy I can think of is D44 vs D35.

D80... The Tundra is a 1/2-truck. Comparing it against a 1-ton isn't a fair, or valid comparison.

8' bed... both the regular cab and double-cab models are available with a 97.6" bed (8.13 ft).

Visibility... shouldn't be any worse than the new F150's.

If a vehcle claims to be able to tow 10,000 lbs then in my opinion its a little more than a 1/2 ton truck, and it'd better be able to tow the GCWR without tearing up parts....like rear axles, and i doubt that 'Yota rear end would hold up for a month hooked to that much weight. My 01 Cummins HO is only rated for somthing like 15,000 lbs but completely stock with nothing but an exhaust brake i've got no problems moving, or stopping upwards of 20,000 lbs. Now that may be considered slighlty abusive but the fact of the matter is that if a manufacturer is going to rate a vehicle for a set weight, it should be able to deal that weight day in and day out without mechanical difficulty. Just my .02, but unless Toyota builds a truck that will take the beating that real truck owners put on them, then they don't stand a chance in the big truck market.

VTJeepCJ84
01-17-2007, 05:52 PM
considering toyota plans on puting a diesel in that chasis, i would asume that they designed it to take the abuse. As long as they put a bigger trans in than the previous models.
Toyota seems to plan ahead a lot more than a lot of die hard american motor's people give them credit for.
I'm not a big fan of the looks, but i can't wait to see it with the diesel.

Jeeperoni
01-17-2007, 06:54 PM
considering toyota plans on puting a diesel in that chasis, i would asume that they designed it to take the abuse. As long as they put a bigger trans in than the previous models.
Toyota seems to plan ahead a lot more than a lot of die hard american motor's people give them credit for.
I'm not a big fan of the looks, but i can't wait to see it with the diesel.


amen, thats one ugly sucker.

Jeepin Jason
01-19-2007, 10:29 AM
With the 5.7L V8, the new Tundra has a different rear axle than the V6 models. The rear axle in the V8 trucks has a 10.5" ring gear.

HotSEXJ
01-19-2007, 11:39 AM
The rear axle in the V8 trucks has a 10.5" ring gear.

:o

I heard it's got damn near 400 horsepower

mcamish01
01-19-2007, 11:45 AM
With the 5.7L V8, the new Tundra has a different rear axle than the V6 models. The rear axle in the V8 trucks has a 10.5" ring gear.


Hmm..well I retract my previous skeptical axle comments then, though in the pictures it sure doesnt look that big...

EBJEEPN
01-19-2007, 07:51 PM
In the above undercarriage picture it looks a lot like my T100/Tundra axle. Are we sure it's a new axle and not just 5-lug shafts?

https://filebox.vt.edu/users/hjsmith/T100Diff.JPG


nice whitewalls :pimp:

VTJeepCJ84
01-20-2007, 12:39 PM
:o

I heard it's got damn near 400 horsepower
x2
381 hp
401lb-ft

SpyderXJ
01-21-2007, 06:53 PM
I've started seeing the Commercials for the 07's Tundra's. I really like the way they are marketing them, and it makes me want them. If Toy's weren't so expensive I might consider one next year instead of a used CTD.

jeepkid05
01-22-2007, 11:58 AM
Im too lazy to read this entire thread, but personally I think that the toy 8" isnt a sufficient axle for the rear of a truck that claims crazy towing capabilities.

thats all

Jeepin Jason
01-22-2007, 12:01 PM
maybe you should read the thread then... as stated just a few posts above... the V8 trucks come with a 10.5" rear axle. Not the 8.

:bangtard:

Duronimal
02-08-2007, 08:22 PM
The new Tundra will probably walk all over the so-called 'big 3' as far as reliability, quality, and durability, and it sounds like it'll finally be competing, if not winning, in capabilities and the important truck stuff.

Actually Toyota needs to cross their fingers and hope for the best. They lost ground in the full size SUV segment to the latest round of higher ranked fullsize GM products - Sub/Tahoe/Yukon.
They should quit copying Ford in the styling department too, although this is better than that Tacoma abortion.

swish
02-08-2007, 08:47 PM
FUGLY. looked like total garbage at the auto show. toyota -1, new GMC +1

mcamish01
02-09-2007, 04:05 PM
The Tundra looks like a futury bloated version of what it was, definitely like the crisp new lines of the GM's.

Blaine B.
03-08-2007, 10:43 PM
No ****. The Excursion is a PITA to park, and it's only 137" wheelbase. That thing is like driving a school bus.

I want one someday.

jeepkid05
03-08-2007, 11:38 PM
oops