want to go 2" bigger, but...

[MiguelXJ]

Okay, this is the deal...

I wanna go a few inches (like 2" or smthg like that) bigger but I have some q's..

1. w/ 2", do I have to worry about Trac bar, LCA, brake lines, SYE and such? :confused:

2. I got some "new" rear springs for my xj but the front springs (coils) were a bit sagged so I've just put some home made spacers to level it up. Now, I got no probs on lifting the rear end (blocks or shackles), but w/ the sagged front springs, it's not very advisable to add ANOTHER spacer, right? so, what should I do? just wait till I get the money to buy front coils? I mean, 2" are JUST 2"... graemlins/icon_help.gif

I know that buying the whole kit it's the BEST thing to do but here in PT they are too expensive.

thanks for the input! icon_smile_wink.gif

[Cotter_v2.0]

OK....I'm gonna take a stab at this one, although my record on XJ questions is less than desirable.....someone will jump on me if I'm totally off base.....

I don't think you'll have many issues with SYE and the brake lines....pretty sure the trac bar will be fine........LCA's....???? I'll let someone else answer that.....

As far as the spacers go.....I wouldn't add another set of spacers, but if you could make one that is 3"...you'd probably be ok....I'd generally recommend staying away from spacers to provide lift...just because they really don't help with the articulation, they only help to get bigger tires on....but...they are cheap....and...depending on how much wheelin' yer plannin'...might be just what you want....

good luck miguel....

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[JeepXJ89]

Originally posted by MiguelXJ:
Okay, this is the deal...

I wanna go a few inches (like 2" or smthg like that) bigger but I have some q's..

1. w/ 2", do I have to worry about Trac bar, LCA, brake lines, SYE and such? :confused:

2. I got some "new" rear springs for my xj but the front springs (coils) were a bit sagged so I've just put some home made spacers to level it up. Now, I got no probs on lifting the rear end (blocks or shackles), but w/ the sagged front springs, it's not very advisable to add ANOTHER spacer, right? so, what should I do? just wait till I get the money to buy front coils? I mean, 2" are JUST 2"... graemlins/icon_help.gif

I know that buying the whole kit it's the BEST thing to do but here in PT they are too expensive.

thanks for the input! icon_smile_wink.gif With a 2in you dont't have to worry about trac bar, LCA, brake lines, or a SYE. Usually these probs occur 3.5in or higher. i dont't know about double stacking a spacer if thats what you are doing but you could find a non sagging front spring set and add a 2in spacer to that. Post back if you need more.
Jeff

[FreeBirdXJ]

From the looks of your avatar, you seem to have an older model(95+older). SYE, thats out of the question :) . If you wan't to make sure you have no vibes, you could do a little homemade trasnfer case drop, using a 1 inch piece of metal, there was a thread not too long ago about it.

I've also heard its not adviable to stack your front spacers, it could be dangerous. You could find an UpCountry model Cherokee somewhere in PT, and take the coils off it, to give you that extra 1.5"ish lift in the front, and do the shackle blocks in the rear. You'd be set there, then slap on some 31 aggressive tires, and you'd ready to wheel(well...better).

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[ScottZJ]

Yes these guys are correct. First off dont stack spacers, too dangerous. Second you can find 3" coils around the forums for real cheap used. 3rd, you dont have to do much for 3" lift and under for older model XJ's. Once you go past the 3" lift you are in for major dollars but just stay below and you should be cool.......peace

[MiguelXJ]

first of all, thanks for your help!

The only MAJOR problem of buying them out of PT is the shipping... :( cuz I know there are good parts at even better prices in the "Swap meet".

about the upcountry XJ, I don't think I'll find one here... I found a white 88XJ in the boneyard and it has some RED coils up front (Rancho??).. This jeep looks like he's been there for a long time... proly the springs already sagged don't you guys think? or should I ask to disassemble them?

oh, and BTW, I got a set of gas charged shocks (I think they'r kinda stockish)... would they be ok w/ the extra 2"?

thanks again ppl! graemlins/icon_beerchug.gif

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[FreeBirdXJ]

Go get those red coils, Rancho and I believe Skyjacker have those coils. Both are very stiff, and Skyjacker in my opinion for XJ's are horrible if your a hardcore offroader, but it were me, I'd take them!
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[XJ Fanatic]

actually you should grab them up and grab the rear matching springs too then whatever lift he had you could have. even sagged lift springs should set you higher then stock.

[XterrainJ]

i have a 1-inch t-case drop kit that came with my lift from Rubicon Express.....anyone want it? i wont be using it.

[MiguelXJ]

Originally posted by XterrainJ:
i have a 1-inch t-case drop kit that came with my lift from Rubicon Express.....anyone want it? i wont be using it.:) thnx man, but I think I wont be needing that kit... I just want 2". I think 3" will be too much for what I wheel...

Well, I'm off to grab those coils... anyone has an idea of how much they'll ask for them?

P.S. - and what about about the stockish gas shocks.. would it be ok w/ 2"? :confused:

[Static-XJ]

Originally posted by MiguelXJ:
P.S. - and what about about the stockish gas shocks.. would it be ok w/ 2"? :confused: I would say that they'd work.

Here's something I want to throw out there. Until you get new LCA's you're not getting any additional flex from a lift in the front of an XJ. The reason that I say this is that the LCA's limit axle droop, and as long as you have the stock LCA's then they're going to limt droop at the same point no matter what coils you have. This is why I think the shocks in question would work. You do have to remember that a lift also increases ground clearance and may help you to fit larger tires. I think trading a little bit of flex (at 3" I have less than stock up travel vbecause of my 31's) for the increased clearance and larger tires.

And Pete, you answered good for being one of those grandy boys. icon_smile_wink.gif Don't ZJ's have LCA's (Lower Control Arms)?

[MiguelXJ]

ok! thanks for the input!!

:)

[John aka:Kerndogg]

Hey freebirdxj, why is a SYE out of the Question for a pre-95 XJ?
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[XJ Fanatic]

free bird its not out of the question i really could use one. it depends on the jeep. Kinda like well you could think of a comparison. Jason would be mad for mine. So anyway. It depends on each individual jeep. 95 and older are less prone to a vibration but still possible especially with higher mileage i have 183k on mine and i got vibes no biggy they went away with a t-case drop. and they are most likely from having a bit to many miles on the original well everything

[Jeepin Jason]

Originally posted by Kerndogg:
Hey freebirdxj, why is a SYE out of the Question for a pre-95 XJ?
graemlins/icon_puke.gif Because 2" shouldn't cause any vibs on a rig that's '95 or older.

[XJ Fanatic]

but jasonson you know there is a the minute possiblity of it happening so its not out of the question....

[Jeepin Jason]

Originally posted by XJ Fanatic:
but jasonson you know there is a the minute possiblity of it happening so its not out of the question....Possible? Yes. Probable? No. I wouldn't consider it a likely outcome from only 2" of lift on a rig of that year.

[XJ Fanatic]

yeah but if he uses shackles it is probable cheap has and 89 and with shackles he had it happen... got i got horrible vibes from three inches... so he should know the possiblity but a t-case drop should fix her up if it happens

[FreeBirdXJ]

<teenager ooing> Who's right, cause if Jason's backs me up, its right!! graemlins/laughing.gif :) </teenager ooing>

[FreeBirdXJ]

By the way bro, if you look at my post, I did state that he should look into a T-Case drop, because the probability of vibrations on his model would be slim, or the vibes wouldn't be too bad, seeing as the T-Case drop should eliminate the vibes if he should get some.

That's just my 2cents. I'm no pro, thats for sure.

[Krazyxjkid]

On my '87 xj with rustys 4.5in i got no vibes and no transfer case drop icon_smile_big.gif and I am also running 33's with no trimming. just thought i would add the part about my tires b/c everybody says its pretty much impossible to run what I got